Bill Joslin interview – “Nonviolent Communication, Pt. 1 “Is NVC Consistent with the Trivium Method?”” – #229

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Episode 229 is an interview with Bill Joslin, his sixth appearance, titled: Nonviolent Communication, Pt. 1 “Is NVC Consistent with the Trivium Method?”. This episode is being released Sunday, May 24, 2015, and was recorded May 18.

Bill Joslin at an early age developed a fascination with mind and awareness. Subsequently he spent 16 years studying Bonpo, Nyingma Buddhist and Taoist practices. He spent a year in Asia interviewing Buddhist monks in Laos, Cambodia, Nepal; Taoist practitioners in Indonesia, and Bonpo priests in Northwest Nepal, comparing practices as taught in the west with the original monasteries and traditions from which the teachings originated. Nine years ago, Bill was asked by a number of people to counsel them with mediation practices they were having difficulty with and not finding aid from their current teachers. From a sense of responsibility Bill then went through a process of questioning every aspect of meditative knowledge he had gained over those years, essentially applying critical thinking to spiritual practices. In short order the illusion of meditation, spiritual teachers, and philosophical frameworks dissolved and a concise, non-mystical view of mind, self and world emerged with simple clarity. Meditation and spiritual guru-ship is an ancient form of control, the residue of which we live with today.

Professional Protesters make their way into legitimate causes by providing organization and training to sincere people. Once installed into the cause they then high jack the activities – marginalize or radicalise the participants. NVC is a core subject in activist training.

Citations:
For more see Genuinewitty:

http://www.genuinewitty.com/2013/07/08/love-is-the-movement-tattoos-the-mark-of-the-activistocrat-feat-tides-foundation-hollyhock/

http://www.genuinewitty.com/2014/08/15/line-9-protests-unmasked-part-ii-anarchists-dance-with-ngos-unions-at-the-watermelon-ball/

http://www.genuinewitty.com/2014/01/03/idle-no-more-unmasked-part-i-what-didnt-the-suzuki-foundation-disclose-in-their-letter-to-stephen-harper/

http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/10/12/where-judy-rebick-velcrow-ripper-hollyhock-renewal-partners-soros-the-black-panthers-intersect/

Read the report here: http://www.offsettingresistance.ca/

Example of activist thinking:

“Don’t lose sight of the primary purpose: Does your BAP begin to dismantle the core institutions of industrial civilization that are assaulting the life systems of the planet?”

https://web.archive.org/web/20130416062735/http://www.deepgreenresistance.org/action/aboveground/

The above ground – underground structure of paid protesting

http://www.dissembling.org/agenda-21/dgr-is-aboveground-operations-elf-is-underground-operations/

More on NVC and the connection to paid protester training facilities (with ties to Esalen)

http://potentnews.com/2013/07/27/history-connected-merging-the-trivium-method-with-non-violent-communication-nvc/

NVC in the Brain:
https://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/6FBA86B0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-6734

Spies In Academic Clothing:

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/SpiesinAcademicClothing_MKULTRA

Prior Related Episodes:

Remedy Roundtable 04- with Joe Atwill, Bill Joslin, Ryan Gilmore and Jan Irvin – “Psychopaths: The Morally Insane” – #211
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/remedy-roundtable-04-psychopaths-the-morally-insane-211/
Remedy Roundtable 03- with Joe Atwill, Bill Joslin, Ryan Gilmore and Jan Irvin – “Operation Transhumanism” – #208
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/remedy-roundtable-03-operation-transhumanism-208/

Remedy Roundtable 02- with Joe Atwill, Bill Joslin, Ryan Gilmore and Jan Irvin – “Common Ground” – #207
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/remedy-roundtable-02-with-joe-atwill-bill-joslin-ryan-gilmore-and-jan-irvin-common-ground-207/

Remedy Roundtable 01- with Joe Atwill, Bill Joslin, Ryan Gilmore and Jan Irvin – “Navigating the world of Sophistry” – #205
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/remedy-roundtable-01_navigating-world-sophistry-205/


Bill Joslin interview – “Meditation: Deconstructing Nonsense” – #202

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/bill-joslin-meditation-202/

 

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  5 comments for “Bill Joslin interview – “Nonviolent Communication, Pt. 1 “Is NVC Consistent with the Trivium Method?”” – #229

  1. June 3, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    On 22 September 2014 at 12:44 Darrell Becker made the following statement on Facebook
    https://www.facebook.com/GnosticMedia/posts/10204818289886106

    “As to avoiding a focus on the grammar and logic, I believe my sophomoric attempt at this exploration was when I made my first show with Brett Veinotte, which covered the essential grammar of the pursuit I was attempting. The fact that this grammar was incomplete in the manner in which you’ve helped me see, Jan Irvin, is a humbling event, something to show all of us that grammar work is never done, but that it can be returned to again and again. I explored the logic of the tactics I promote in the next several shows on the School Sucks Podcast, again, showing how there were aspects which could have been added, such as a mention of the possible hypnotic nature of these skills. I would suggest that, perhaps or perhaps not, what I promote might actually be used to counter some aspects of NLP and certain applications of (so-called) NVC or even perverted versions of the Trivium. But I’m open to seeing how this might indeed not be so.”

    The following is an example, the one used in episode 230 – NVC Part 2, of how Mr. Becker’s own words are an example of Erickson’s techniques (the foundation of NLP, covert hypnosis and NVC.) We have broken the quote down, line by line, and explained how the technique is executed.

    http://www.gnosticmedia.com/txtfiles/NVC-DarellBeckers-OwnWord.pdf

  2. March 3, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    NVC has nothing to do with the Trivium. It neither contradicts it or agrees with it.
    It is about seeing the emotions of people behind their shield of thoughts.
    It teaches to connect with your own emotions and it teaches to connect with the emotions of people around you.
    Its building a shield of freedom against violent thinking, when the Trivium is like building a secure thinking house.
    The two have nothing to do with eachother.
    When Trivium has to do with the mind, NVC has to do with the heart.
    Sadly I see that the speakers in the video confuse two different methods as being contradictory to eachother, when I know that they are two different tools.

    • March 28, 2017 at 6:05 pm

      NVC is actually anti-Trivium as we’ve exposed here. NVC was developed by the CIA. NVC is not thinking, it’s using fallacies to project on to the other person what you think they believe or why they’re acting a certain way without asking. Sadly, I see you confuse the issues entirely as it’s laid out very clearly here. NVC is a tool for manipulating people and was developed by the CIA to thwart political movements. – Sorry, you’ll have to try again and get some actual facts behind it.

  3. Hagge Banke
    July 15, 2017 at 12:04 am

    Nonviolent communication by Marshall (((Rosenberg)))….

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